Welcome to another summer of SSBMRank. Players, commentators, and figureheads were surveyed for who they thought were the best players of the first half of 2015. We finally delve into the Top 5.
3. Mango – (618 pts)
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| Name: | Joseph Marquez | ||
| Team: | Cloud 9 | ||
| Main(s): | Fox/Falco | ||
| Area: | Socal | ||
| 2014 SSBMRank | 1 | ||
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@C9Mang0 |
Summary
After a very successful 2014, Mango hasn’t seen the same level of results this year, losing all of the 3 Super Majors to his rivals. Even though he didn’t pull off a spectacular summer performance, he still had monstrous runs at other tournaments such as Press Start where he defeated a slew of top 10 level players. He’s shown that he’s more than capable of defeating anyone, including Armada, and he’ll have several of opportunities in the Fall to prove to people that they “shalt not sleep on the kid.”
Tournament Results
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2015 Set Data vs Big 6
| Armada | Hungrybox | Leffen | Mew2King | PPMD | Total | |
| Mango | 2-6 | 2-1 | 4-3 | 1-0 | 0-0 | 9-10 (47%) |
Mango’s Win Percentage by Stage Against Big 6 (2015)
Other SSBMRank Summer 2015 Pages: 1,2,3,4,5,6-10,11-15,16-20,21-25
Nice
Really wish we could’ve seen mango-PP this year. Hope it happens at BH5. For me, two things would’ve had to happen for mango to drop to 3. 1.) Leffen had one more winning record against a god or 2.) Mango had one more losing record against a god. As it stands, Leffen has losing records against PP (albeit one set), mango, and is tied with Hbox. The only god who has a clear advantage over mango this year is armada.
@sparty Leffen has 1st place finishes at CEO, WTFox, and FC return. All tournaments with several gods. BAM7 mango has the head to head win, but it must be weighed lighter then the other three I’ve mentioned because there were more gods in attendance at all of those tournaments.
@Jacob I was only talking about H2H match ups among the gods. Mango didn’t play leffen at CEO and he didn’t even go to FC.
WHAT? The MIOM mang0 fan club put Leffen above mang0?!?! LETS GOOOO! T S M! T S M! T S M! T S M! T S M! T S M!
Mango has a worse trac record versus top 6 players than HBox and gets 3th while hbox gets 5th.
Seriously disagree with placed 3 to 5 but welp. Its hard to make this list but I feel there’s some bias towards the, yes, Greatest of All Time indeed, but not the third best of this year.
People probably like him because he fights people kappa
I’m going to discuss why I would rank PPMD over Mango.
Before we get into this discussion, I just want to make clear that I’m a firm believer in the expression “Flags fly forever.” I’m a baseball fan, and when you win the pennant or the World Series, they put up a flag and it ain’t coming down. Flags fly forever. No one remembers in ten years that the team got a little lucky, that they went on a hot streak at the right time, that their opponents suffered some injuries. What we remember is who won, because flags fly forever, and as the years pass one can always point to the flag. With that said, I don’t really want to get into parsing things like “Such and such a player got a dream bracket” or “Yeah he finished third and this other guy finished tied for seventh, but we know the lower-ranking player actually had the better tournament.” If you win, you win. If you finish ahead of another guy, you finish ahead of him. That’s all that matters.
It’s no secret that PPMD only attended two tournaments this year and did not play Mango head-to-head at any point. Those two tournaments he attended, APEX and EVO, are the biggest of all-time as of this writing. PPMD won APEX and finished ahead of Mango at EVO. However, Mango was far, far more active than PPMD in 2015. In order to rank Mango ahead of PPMD, the argument essentially is that Mango deserves so much extra credit for attending more tournaments that he not only closes the gap between him and PPMD, but actually pulls ahead.
However, Mango’s tournament results outside of Apex and EVO are not overwhelming. He finished 3rd at CEO, 3rd at BEAST 5, 5th at Sandstorm, 2nd at I’m Not Yelling!, and 2nd at WTFox. The largest tournament of the year he won was actually an Australian national in which he and a few other elite players were flown out to Melbourne. He also won Press Start, which with 222 entrants was smaller than any of the SoCal “Mayhem Monthlies” he attended. He has a losing record against the top 6 this year (9-10 record). This is all in addition to finishing 4th at Apex and 5th at EVO.
To me, finishing 3rd at CEO, the biggest tournament of the year that PPMD did not attend, is the most illustrative result as to why I would not rank Mango over PPMD. If Mango is supposed to get extra credit for being more active, CEO is where most of it should come from, except Mango didn’t win and didn’t make Grand Finals, even with no M2K and no PPMD in his way. I don’t understand how you can look at that result and conclude “Yes, despite finishing behind PPMD at the two biggest tourneys of the year, his other results should move him ahead.”
I think MIOM’s ranking of Mango 3rd and PPMD 4th in their Top 100 is a legacy placement and more reflective of Mango’s results in 2013 and 2014 than his performance in 2015.
WOW. This is exactly what I think a bout the situation put together in a concise, effective, respectful and logical way. I didn’t see any reason to rank Mango over PPMD either. I tip my hat to you sir.
@Saturn_ Or more reflective of PP only attending two freaking tournaments in 7 months lol.
PPMD should be third, but I won’t hate